“So just to give you an idea, and we get out there on top of this mountain. And big lights and gates, and I see we have to walk through the gates. And the SS are holding the guns like this, and I have this feeling that the gun could go off at any time. Maybe when I get there. The big dogs and the gun. I was thinking to myself, I was already envious of the people who walked through the gate because I saw they didn’t shoot. So we got inside through this gate, and even those faces from the SS, that was enough, you didn’t need to see the gun, to see their faces with so much hate. You felt, I would say I felt worse than an animal. I felt like nothing. Those eyes, the way they looked at you. I didn’t know why am I so different. Like I remembered my face was a regular, normal. And here they look at us, I can’t even tell you, so much hate, so much anger. I remember I was thinking this. So we got into the camp at Mauthausen and this was a death place, thousands, and the barracks had, we couldn’t get into the barracks cause there were more dead people. So we settled on the open outside. We still had a blanket, this and that, and really the barracks had a lot of dead people, so we couldn’t even…like I said, at least out here, I had the air, fresh air. So I remained in the open in rain or shine. (Interviewer: They didn’t try to force you into the barracks?) They didn’t care. They just didn’t care. There was nothing, we had just as terrible outside as inside so they didn’t care."